standing at the back in my sissy robe

August 9, 2009

Schadenfreude Sunday

Filed under: Deathtards & Co.,World Beyond My Naval — Tamarind @ 2:58 pm

I’ve been all over the rhino place this week but here are a selection of the posts that grabbed my eye:

Two really Azeroth-love inspiring over at Aspect of the Hare on the different zones: here’s the Eastern Kingdoms, and here’s Kalimdor. I really enjoy reading about other people’s reactions to the game. I’m completely shallow when it comes to levelling. I like to go places that are pretty. There are whole sections of Azeroth of which I’m completely ignorant because they’re not Tolkeinesque forests or the African savannah – places like the Blasted Lands, the Burning Steppes, the Badlands, Desolace. I should really stop being so silly, packing up some honeymint tea and put on my hiking boots. There’s still a world out there waiting for me. I still remember visiting the Eastern Kingdom for the first time on my small, wide-eyed cow. It was so different from the rolling plains of home and, dear god, the hotels were terrible! The beds were as uncomfortable as coffins … oh wait … they were coffins! A lesson well learned: never buy a package holiday to Hillsbrad from the goblin travel agents Floggit and Leggit.

Kahleena over at Feldeeds is doing a fantastic series of articles on levelling as a warlock. I’m not much for the number-crunching m’self but I do really enjoy this style of witty, discursive analysis. Also special kudos for encouraging eager young warlocks not to give their healers a heart attack by discriminate life-tapping. Part one is here, part two here and the floor is opened for questions here.

Finally, of course, there has been major excitement and many many words over patchday. At two opposite ends of the spectrum, there is gigglesome cynicism from Wildgrowth and joyous enthusiasm from Priest With a Cause.


I was hangin about in Northrend this morning, when I got a moderately polite whisper asking if I’d be willing to heal heroic TOC. Putting aside for the moment I refuse to associate with jousting even for a second, I didn’t want to be responsible for any wipage on account of not really being geared for it. So I whispered back to say precisely that, but that I was willing to give it a go if they were desperate for a healer and willing to go a little carefully.

The reply?

Lol, ru in quest greens

Well, a mixture of high end quest greens and instance blues. But they guy was such a dick, I didn’t bother to answer.

You can imagine my satisfaction to see the same guy wailing and begging for a healer over General for the next two and a half hours.

Finally, he whispered me again, saying they were willing to deign to let me heal for them.

“I think I’ll pass,” I said, gleefully, the same manner as one might say “fuck you.”

Wtf, came the astonished response.

“I don’t want to heal for you,” I explained.

Wtf u no you need the epics.

“Yes,” I said, “but you’re a price I’m not willing to pay for them.”

And then I slash-ignored and went about my business.



  1. Good for you! 😀

    Comment by Hulan — August 9, 2009 @ 3:53 pm | Reply

    • Hehe, weirdly satisfying especially considering how often I’ve been a doormat about that kind of thing.

      Comment by Tamarind — August 10, 2009 @ 12:23 pm | Reply

  2. Muahaha. Probably the worst aspect of being a DPS is not being able to do this sort of thing, because we are so damned replaceable.

    Comment by Kahleena — August 9, 2009 @ 4:55 pm | Reply

    • Given how much trouble I’ve had with melee DPS recently, I’m coming to the conclusion this is not case. We PUGed with a level 80 lock the other day and I nearly fell at his feet, crying with joy, simply because he was a) wasn’t a deathtard and b) extremely savvy at avoiding AoE. In fact, as one of the boss fights went horrendously to shit, my last actions as a Failangel were to throw prayer of mending out, get M’Pocket up to full with a ticking renew, and, finally, get the warlock up to full with a ticking renew. We did triumph in the end but the only survivors were the warlock and the tank. Just goes to show what a little consideration will get you. But that guy is on my friend’s list and I’m never letting him go again. I would kill for quality DPS. Ironically.

      Comment by Tamarind — August 10, 2009 @ 12:32 pm | Reply

  3. Ah, idiots, what would WoW be without them? My most recent experience involved getting called a dickhead for not accepting a blind invite.

    If you travel to Badlands, I suggest paying a visit to the local goblins. In exchange for some help they’ll give you some explosives to scare away the beasts which roam everywhere in the Badlands. You can’t go five steps without running into a wolf. Oh, and bring water, there’s none to be found and the local plants are too dry.

    Comment by Klepsacovic — August 9, 2009 @ 5:02 pm | Reply

    • I hate people who blind invite you to things. Why do they do that? And who accepts blind invitations anyway? It would be like randomly getting into someone’s car in the street simply because the door was opened for you.

      You’re not quite selling the Badlands to me, I have to admit =P

      Comment by Tamarind — August 10, 2009 @ 12:33 pm | Reply

      • I accepted one on my bank alt the other day simply to find out what in the world a Level 80 DK on the other end of the continent wanted with a Level 1 anything. The other Level 1 who responded (nice enough fellow) was similarly confused — and the DK did not respond to tells or party chat. We only put two and two together when we became a raid and the DK’s location changed to Karazhan.

        Why do they do that? Because they understand that other players are only there to be used and discarded, like Kleenex. And because, bafflingly, no one they know will group with them willingly. Go figure. -_-

        Comment by Astoreth — August 10, 2009 @ 5:22 pm

  4. You never ignore people like that!
    Only God knows what kind of stories they might concoct about you in the general chat.. fun stupid stories you might miss out on.

    Comment by DW — August 9, 2009 @ 6:36 pm | Reply

    • Mmmm…I’d rather not know. If people start bitching about me on General, I get an urge to defend myself whereas as everyone knows the only way to not-lose at the internet (winning, being, of course impossible) is to walk away.

      Comment by Tamarind — August 10, 2009 @ 12:34 pm | Reply

  5. You probably escaped disaster. Tried to heal ToC heroic on my druid with a bad pug for my first try: wipe fest. 131g in repairs. At least they were all polite and cheerful about it. Got lucky today though and we did it in 1! It’s a challenging heroic, I think, also very dependent on luck with regard to the random bosses.

    Comment by Liadan — August 9, 2009 @ 11:02 pm | Reply

    • I have to admit I don’t like ToC at all. The style of it strikes me as lazy and the jousting makes me want to stab myself into both eyes. Sorry, that’s probably slightly-overdramatic. Also I can’t get into the story of it at all. Again, I know this probably makes me sound like a lame but I like to get imaginatively involved in instances and ToC makes no narrative sense whatsoever. It makes me feel like my character is wasting time when he should be out killing Scourge.

      The only reason I consented to try ToC was because, well, my eyes kind of filled up with the promise of epics and people have been declaring its “piss easy” since it came out. It wasn’t, err, piss easy at all. And it was deeply annoying. I should hastsily add: I do like things to be challenging, I don’t expect to faceroll stuff, but I want them to be challenging in interesting wasy which ToC just isn’t for me.

      Also, yeah, we had a bad combination of adds. Shaman, rogue, warrior. Wipearama. Sigh. Bad combination of adds is kind of the story of my life 🙂

      Comment by Tamarind — August 10, 2009 @ 12:38 pm | Reply

      • The whole idea of the Tournament strikes me as nuts. Banding together against the Lich King? Great. Killing his minions? Great. But building a big honking unprotected tournament ground in the middle of nowhere and playing horsey games? Using Scourge for sport? Er, whatever. Trampling each other in an apparently lethal form of the horsey game when we should be fighting said Scourge in the field? Idiotic. Apparently the cold froze some of those people’s brain cells. But, I don’t like Icecrown anyway. The Ebon Blade and the “Arthas hype” annoy me too much.

        (Also, I admit a certain resentment over the hippogryph mounts. Hippos are a Kaldorei thing, and they are pretty smart. Since when do they hang out with the night elves’ degenerate magic-junkie cousins? Not to mention, they still don’t have ground animations though as NPCs they stand on the ground just fine.)

        As for ToC, I have been there twice and the first time was easy though we wiped once on the jousting bosses since we didn’t expect them to remount. The second boss in that first run was Eadric. The second run, we got Paletress and she whooped us. Mainly due to the healer being in over his head and sleep-deprived. Let’s see how she will fare when our team is fully awake, but I bet unless you have some kind of shammy is she always pretty annoying.

        And cheers for showing that rude little brat the middle finger in a polite but definite manner. Served him right, not to find a healer. You’d think these shitwits would figure out eventually that a smidgen of manners might help …

        Comment by Feralan — August 10, 2009 @ 2:28 pm

  6. Hee, hee that had to feel great, good for you. I’ve run with people that were epicced out, and they still failed at the simple stuff; you cannot always judge someone by their gear. With my first priest, I was able to successfully heal heroics in quest blues and greens, and I quickly geared up too. 🙂

    Three of my buddies and I regularly ran together, We all were in epcis by that time we would pick up two DPS from the LFG channel we never turned people away because of gear, and the times we did pick up those that were undergeared well they were usually able to get some nice drops. ‘

    Comment by deimonia — August 10, 2009 @ 12:14 am | Reply

    • It did feel good. It felt sinfully good, the way being malicious sometimes can.

      I think you’re right, it’s perfectly possible to heal heroics in decent green/blue gear but it depends very much on the people you’re running with. If you’ve got a good tank and sensible DPS you’re fine, especially if folks are willing to bother about “the tacs”. The problem is, the few heroics I’ve tried to run thus far have all included slightly squishy tanks and/or people whose boss strategy was “nuke.” Ultimately you can’t heal effectively if the melee DPS won’t get out of the fire, or you can but it’s horribly demanding on mana and nerves.

      Essentially I think you have a culture of people expecting to be carried through instances by the tank and healer, both of whom are obligated by this culture to be over-geared. If you *are* the tank and the healer it’s a problem.

      Like I say, if I met more people who played like you, I don’t think it would be a problem.

      Comment by Tamarind — August 10, 2009 @ 12:43 pm | Reply

      • That’s a good point too. I’ve been in PUGs where it was a pain (and at times impossible to heal effectively.) I can think of two times when I’ve said, I’m sorry guys I cannot keep up with the damage. In those instances the tank simply wasn’t ready for that particular instances and they were getting hammered. Simply putting on plate doesn’t automatically mean you can tank. 😉

        You’re right some people expect to be carried through instances. I’ve seen those type too. With a great tank and healer you are capable of doing a lot but it can be a painful experience in the wrong group.

        Comment by deimonia — August 10, 2009 @ 1:37 pm

  7. The manner you use the word “Schadenfreude” is completely right!!! Good reaction!

    Ist nicht Schadenfreude die schönste Freude manchmal?

    Comment by Nimayne — August 10, 2009 @ 7:13 am | Reply

    • Yes, English is sadly lacking in a word like schadenfreude … hehe.

      Okay, my German is appalling, you’re going to have to help me.

      Is not Schadenfreude the sweetest joy sometimes?

      If I’ve translated that in any way correctly: yes, yes it is 🙂

      Comment by Tamarind — August 10, 2009 @ 12:46 pm | Reply

      • Yes, you translated it right.
        And where you say your german is lacking…

        my english is worse than your german, so…never mind:D
        we all do our best and if not, the others have at least Schadenfreude

        Comment by nimayne — August 10, 2009 @ 12:57 pm

  8. GZ on the smack down! There is something positive about NOT being everyone’s favorite Blood Elf Healer. I, alas, have also tried the ToC:HC with Guildies (Pugs? *shudder*) and I must say FAIL! I, like yourself, am not the most voracious of jousters, it is an acquired taste really ;D

    P.S. Other than the occasional brush with Teh Stupidz hope the rest of WoW is treating you nicely 😀

    Comment by Salvà — August 10, 2009 @ 8:53 am | Reply

    • Thank you 🙂 Yes, one cannot be all healers to all people, there is wisdom in your words 🙂

      You’ve tried ToC – I thought you’d abandoned WoW? Has it pulled you back in, with its siren song?

      Between failPUGS and general frustrations, it has not been the happiest WoWeekend I have ever had (see next post) but there were various real life events to deal with so I was able to find a happy place in this world we call reality 🙂

      At the risk of sounding weirdly needy (and, of course, you’re welcome not to comment and/or read at any time you like =P) but it’s nice to hear from you again.

      Comment by Tamarind — August 10, 2009 @ 12:50 pm | Reply

  9. We’ve had some people like that lately too. Luckily as a tank/healer combo (sortof, I am discovering a dedicated “healer” is completely unnecessary at level 50, and I possess some spells that can technically be called heals), we can just leave people like them people behind. Or invite them anyway, and write lengthy blog posts just to make fun of them. It depends on how we’re feeling at the time.

    Comment by Kiryn — August 10, 2009 @ 8:57 am | Reply

    • Disregard that typo, I clearly need sleep.

      Comment by Kiryn — August 10, 2009 @ 8:57 am | Reply

      • Don’t worry, your reputation survives 🙂

        Comment by Tamarind — August 10, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

    • It’s true, specialisation makes little difference at the lower levels – but I’ve always liked having more healing toys to play with. Doing anything off-spec is kind of dull becuase you have fewer resources. I hate DPSing off-spec: holy fire, shadow word pain, devouring plague, mindblast, smite, smite, smite, holyfire, mindblast, smite, smite, smite. Sigh.

      I think blogging about FailPugs afterwards is the thing that makes them survivable 🙂 Mind you, you’ve had some classics!

      Comment by Tamarind — August 10, 2009 @ 12:53 pm | Reply

      • Actually, healing as enhancement is incredibly fun at this level, and I’ve been meaning to write a blog post ranting about that at some point (so I’ll try to avoid ranting at you here for a page and a half, kay?). Mainly because Khoa’s pally takes so little damage that I’m pretty much DPSing the majority of the time, while watching his health out of the corner of my eye to throw him heals every now and then, and being mindful to stay away from things that might silence or interrupt me.

        Like those stupid diemetradons in Maraudon. As melee DPS, I don’t much care that they do a melee range AoE silence, because I can still whack them with my axes/stormstrike/lavalash, but if I have to be watching the tank’s health, I have to stand in the back like a sissy and lob wimpy lightning bolts at them instead.

        Comment by Kiryn — August 10, 2009 @ 8:44 pm

  10. I have been throughly chastised Sir Tam, I shall throw myself into the fire and bad stuff(tm) in my next run. Wait if I do that, who’s healing?

    Comment by Raes — August 10, 2009 @ 4:55 pm | Reply

    • Really should pay more attention where I post these things, oh wells.

      Comment by Raes — August 10, 2009 @ 6:12 pm | Reply

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